#390 - Identity Management for Agentic AI with Tobin South

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source-idac-390-agentic-ai-identity

canonical title

#390 - Identity Management for Agentic AI with Tobin South

alternate titles

Identity at the Center #390: Identity Management for Agentic AI with Tobin South

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podcast_episode

series or parent source

Identity at the Center, episode 390

publisher

IDAC Corp. / Identity at the Center

channel

Identity at the Center

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institutional author

Unknown

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orgref-idac, orgref-openid-foundation

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event date

Unknown

published at

2025-12-08

updated at

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duration seconds

3353

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lang-en

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Unknown

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geography of organization

geo-global

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geo-global

study geography

original url

https://anchor.fm/s/c5fefcc/podcast/play/111687080/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-25%2F01f889a3-6ebf-b82d-8d03-61c6114f10df.mp3

canonical url

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/390-identity-management-for-agentic-ai-with-tobin-south/id1471899975?i=1000740200992

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Unknown

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https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/6djrGPlNiIlJZmBpcsR2KY

doi

Unknown

canonical identity status

verified_original_episode_across_rss_apple_spotify_and_openid_media_index

repost status

original_episode_with_listening_platform_mirrors

original source id

Unknown

rights status

link_and_paraphrase

ownership status

third_party

relationship to off

none

transcript status

unofficial_research_aids_only

transcript source

Podscan public preview plus local machine transcription checked against the original audio

transcript republication permission

not_documented_do_not_publish_full_transcript

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analysis basis

Complete original audio reviewed with official chapter markers, platform metadata, an unofficial transcript preview, and a locally generated timestamped research transcript; statements were checked against the audio dialogue and attributed only where the guest response was clear.

topics

topic-ai-agents, topic-ai-governance, topic-cybersecurity, topic-non-human-identity, topic-ai-liability, topic-enterprise-infrastructure

executive roles

role-ciso, role-cio, role-cto, role-general-counsel, role-board-director

original abstract

Tobin South explains why AI agents strain identity systems designed for deterministic users and applications. The discussion separates impersonation from delegated authority, argues that agents need identities and credentials distinct from the people who invoke them, and connects governance to bounded scopes, traceable delegation chains, oversight, and responsibility for actions. South treats standards work as necessary infrastructure for both consumer assistants and enterprise deployments, while also describing Model Context Protocol as an interoperability layer whose security properties still depend on authentication and authorization. The episode's practical emphasis is that identity teams should prepare policies and architectures before agent adoption becomes widespread, without assuming current protocols or shared user credentials are adequate.

inclusion rationale

This is a complete, long-form interview with the lead author of the OpenID agentic-identity report and directly addresses delegation, credentials, governance, liability, MCP, and recursive authority.

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expert_interview

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funding

IDAC Corp. states that the regular weekly podcast does not sell advertising or use commercial sponsorship contracts; no episode-specific funding was identified.

sponsor

Unknown

peer review status

not_applicable

findings

limitations

Expert perspective rather than empirical study, Recording date not publicly established, No official transcript, Host banter and event promotion occupy the opening and closing sections

correction ids

retraction status

Unknown

content hash

sha256:779b09ce66832cb86acf34c091302cc3a653f5487dd4b640bed84c16570af40d

accessed at

2026-08-15

verification status

machine_verified_human_approved

source depth

deep

publication status

published

workflow status

published

machine review status

ready_for_human_review

human review status

approved

reviewed by

Murray Newlands

reviewed at

2026-08-16T23:17:22Z

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